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Post by lennonlikesmetal on Jul 25, 2007 19:05:51 GMT 7
Speaking as someone who's best mate has tried to drill Metallica into me non stop for years, I have to say I just don't get the appeal. Old school thrash and thrash generally is just one of the weakest and most pathetic metal genres to my ear. Rage was programmed by Hatebreed last night and they had a bunch of Megadeth and Slayer. Frankly it just seems very 'meh' to me. </controversy> And you're lucky you didn't get Ben started on Trivium. No doubt he can tell you why. For me, metal is all about Symphonic, New Wave of British Heavy, and even some *gasp* alternative/nu metal. Speaking of symphonic, a new album is coming from Nightwish this year! With their new singer! Yay! See, I got back on topic. Nicely saved, huh? Well i don't know if calling thrash a weak and pathetic genre, then Turning around and saying you dig Nightwish is nicely saved, but i checked out your claim. Hatebreed played....... Eyes Of The Insane and Seasons In The Abyss by SLAYER Peace Sells ... But Who's Buying? and Holy Wars by Megadeth EOTI is shite. Seasons.... is ok but over hyped. Decent intro and changes. Peace Sells is ok. Holy Wars is awesome, but they may have played a shortened version. If you don't like them then fair enough, but Tom and Dave are two of the hardest vocalists to agree on so i can understand. 4 thrash songs, 3 of which are "singles" on Rage shouldn't be enough reason for you to bag a whole genre if you don't like them. I mean i don't like most of the Alternative/Nu metal bands yet i don't diss the entire genre because i own a small amount. Perhaps you listen to more before you judge.
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Post by enkc on Jul 26, 2007 10:29:45 GMT 7
First of all, I meant the Nightwish reference was nicely saved since it got me back on topic, i.e. new releases in 2007. Secondly, of course I've heard more than four thrash songs on Rage, I was just using that as an example. Metallica have a few good songs, but I'd take S&M over the harsh, lo-fi studio versions any day.
I love some of Venom's latest album, because for once it has decent production. Deliberate use of poor sound quality like lots of old thrash/first wave black metal and hardcore punk bands did just doesn't cut it with me. It doesn't somehow make you cooler or have higher artistic integrity. Having said that, I'm not in favour of overproduced pop nonsense either where there's virtually nothing left of the supposed 'artist' performing.
And Ross, I got into Sum 41 because I really like their album 'Does This Look Infected?'. I think they're better when they're harder and show some metal influences mixed in with the pop punk and hints of rapcore. My favourite songs are No Brains, Thanks for Nothing, Heart Attack and Pain for Pleasure.
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Post by Ross Anderson on Jul 26, 2007 17:57:37 GMT 7
ahh ok/ Im pretty much the complete opposite haha
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Post by lennonlikesmetal on Jul 28, 2007 14:21:10 GMT 7
First of all, I meant the Nightwish reference was nicely saved since it got me back on topic, i.e. new releases in 2007. Secondly, of course I've heard more than four thrash songs on Rage, I was just using that as an example. Metallica have a few good songs, but I'd take S&M over the harsh, lo-fi studio versions any day. I love some of Venom's latest album, because for once it has decent production. Deliberate use of poor sound quality like lots of old thrash/first wave black metal and hardcore punk bands did just doesn't cut it with me. It doesn't somehow make you cooler or have higher artistic integrity. Having said that, I'm not in favour of overproduced pop nonsense either where there's virtually nothing left of the supposed 'artist' performing. And Ross, I got into Sum 41 because I really like their album 'Does This Look Infected?'. I think they're better when they're harder and show some metal influences mixed in with the pop punk and hints of rapcore. My favourite songs are No Brains, Thanks for Nothing, Heart Attack and Pain for Pleasure. Of course Metallica have a few good songs! S+M was a great idea and a great concert film. Would have been a awesome show to attend, but i prefer the original versions myself. Plus the new songs that were written with Kamen for that show are quite boring. I realise your not much of a metal fan but Mettalicas 80's were actually quite well produced for that time. Besides maybe the bass of And Justice for All. Check out some of your beloved Venoms Welcome To Hell stuff lol. Also you must realise that some bands don't have much choice how bad their sounds is, but some do choose to have a lo-fi or "necro" sound. Like the new Mayhem cd for example. Which is quite good.
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